BISMARCK — The head of North Dakota’s Gaming Division raised concerns this week about potential money laundering, fraud and other compliance issues related to the proliferation of electronic pull tab machines across the state.
Director Deb McDaniel told members of the Legislature’s interim Judiciary Committee on Thursday, March 7 that money laundering is “nearly impossible” to detect across the state’s more than 830 charitable gambling sites, which include about 4,900 electronic pull tab machines.
McDaniel said traditional casinos have surveillance, trained staff and other safeguards to catch money laundering, but e-tab machines in bars, restaurants and other businesses don’t have a similar level of oversight.
“We know it’s happening, but can’t quantify how frequently it occurs, or in what amounts,” McDaniel said.
She cited one example in the Fargo area that was detected when the agency asked a manufacturer to provide an activity report. The report showed that a patron put cash into the machine, did not play the device and then cashed out. Then, McDaniel said the patron took the voucher to the bar and received a check from the bar owner for about $8,000, a process that could be used to “clean” money obtained through drug sales or other illegitimate business.
“That’s one report, on one device, we have 4,900 devices,” she said.
Rep. Jim Kasper, R-Fargo, asked McDaniel if her office had the authority under the state’s current statute to investigate instances of perceived money laundering.
“It was a coincidence that we found it,” McDaniel said. She added she believes the division does have the authority to contact local law enforcement to follow up.
McDaniel also cited concerns connected to charitable gambling involving counterfeit money and fraudulent pull tabs and vouchers, which ultimately can cost a charity money.
Scott Meske, a lobbyist for the North Dakota Gaming Alliance, said the industry is ready to work with lawmakers on potential improvements, but cautioned about passing legislation that harms charities.
“Let’s make sure that the bad actors and some of the bad things that are happening are taken care of, but we don’t throw a blanket over the entire industry and say it’s bad,” Meske told lawmakers.
E-tab machines, which look similar to slot machines, began appearing in North Dakota in 2018 after approval from the Legislature. McDaniel said additional legislative fixes may be needed during the next session to continue oversight of a constantly evolving industry.
For example, some sites have only a taped area on the floor around an e-tab machine that states, “must be 21 beyond this point,” McDaniel said.
She showed lawmakers photos of e-tab machines near children’s games and a photo of an adult playing an e-tab machine with a young child on their lap.
Sen. Diane Larson, R-Bismarck, asked if McDaniel’s office has enough people to monitor the activity and enforce the laws.
McDaniel said she’s looking for direction from the Legislature about the future of charitable gambling in North Dakota in order to know what it will take to regulate the industry.
“I’m not really here today to ask for full-time employees, but, I can say, yes, we are very busy,” she said.
Sen. Janne Myrdal, R-Edinburg, chair of the Judiciary Committee, said she and other members of the committee will work on draft legislation over the coming months to clarify the definition of a “public spirited organization” that would be allowed to participate in charitable gambling.